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You may have seen the piece by Dan Popkey in today's Idaho Statesman. It's completely off base – even laughable.

Here’s a brief response written by Bryan Fischer.

Dan Popkey predictably directed a hit piece at Brandi Swindell and me in today's Idaho Statesman for our defense of the Ten Commandments monument in Julia Davis Park.

Popkey says Ms. Swindell and I "couldn't have been happier" when we were informed that we had liens placed on our personal and real property and that the city was threatening us with foreclosure, which indicates only that Popkey has a strange definition of happiness.

Further, he accuses us of "exploit(ing)" this situation for our own purposes, oblivious to the fact that he himself "exploited" it by using it as the basis for an entire column.

Along the way, he distorted the facts even from the Tuesday press conference he himself attended. He flags me for asking Ms. Swindell to hold up until a cameraman had gotten himself into position, as if I was carefully orchestrating this as a photo op. The truth is that the cameramen had asked us to wait, and I was just being polite. Apparently common courtesy is a political crime in Popkey's lexicon.

On the other hand, however, Kevin Richert gave space to the comments of local political observer Adam Graham:

"Yes, a federal court gave the city the right to collect the money. But just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do something. Adam Park of the city of Boise insisted that to waive fees was to put Fischer and Swindell above the law.
Yet, a quick Google search of the City's Web site reveals more than 900 hits for the word 'waiver' and more than 80 for 'waive fees.' In March 2006, the city waived a combined $14,000 in fees for a soccer tournament and a Lewis and Clark Expo. No one suggested that violated the rule of law.
"Fischer and Swindell are asking for the city to waive the fee, and just because they are Christians, that doesn't mean they have less rights than a soccer tournament. Even St. Paul appealed to Caesar."

Source: Idaho Values Alliance

Bryan Fischer and I just paid our legal fee (in full) at Boise City Hall. Thanks to you! In 3 weeks we raised $10,702.55 to pay the total amount due by July 15th. Your prayers, words of encouragement and financial support have been such a blessing. I don't think I've ever seen such an incredible outpouring of support. Thank you for standing with us.

It is not necessary to send in any more donations for our legal fee fund.

Channels 2,6, and 7, The Idaho Statesman and the Nate Shelman Show covered us as Bryan, myself and our attorney submitted our full payment. As I was answering questions a reporter asked me if I regretted getting involved in this battle 4 years ago. I told him "I don't regret a thing." You can't put a price tag on religious freedom. This only strengthens my resolve to continue to fight for the principles that uphold all of humanity. I consider it an honor to stand up for things that matter. Some people have criticized my generation for not caring but this battle over the 10 Commandments shows that this emerging generation is willing to be a voice for human rights, religious freedom and social justice.

Please read the letter we submitted with the payment to the City of Boise here.

Tuesday, July 15, 2008

PRESS RELEASE

Brandi Swindell and Bryan Fischer to deliver letter and $10K payment to Boise City Hall Today at 2pm

Contact: Brandi Swindell (208) 867-1307 or Bryan Fischer (208) 841-2546

BOISE – Brandi Swindell and Rev. Bryan Fischer will be hand-delivering a letter and $10,702.55 check to the City of Boise at 2pm on Tuesday, July 15th. Swindell and Fischer had a meeting scheduled with the City Attorney’s office for Monday, July 14th that was unexpectedly cancelled by the Boise City Attorney’s office.

Boise City Hall is located at 150 N. Capital Blvd, Boise. Swindell and Fischer will be available for questions and comments at City Hall following the delivery of the letter and check to the City. The letter from Fischer and Swindell will also be available to the media at this time.

In a letter sent to Swindell and Fischer on June 23, 2008, the City of Boise stated that they each have until July 15, 2008, to pay over $10,000 in legal fees stemming from a court case concerning the removal of the Ten Commandments Monument from Julia Davis Park.

The City of Boise also has placed a lien on the property and assets of Swindell and Fischer.

Boise Mayor Dave Bieter and the City Council gave Fischer and Swindell only three weeks to pay $10,000 (and $702.55 interest) or they would proceed against them. Swindell and Fischer each received a certified letter that read, “This is to inform you that we have filed the above referenced judgment with the Ada County Recorders Office which places an automatic lien against all real and personal property under your individual names. This judgment will remain on your credit record until the debt is paid in full.”

Go to www.keepthecommandmentsidaho.com to see the entire letter.

For more information or to schedule an interview, please call Brandi Swindell (208) 867-1307 or Bryan Fischer (208) 841-2546.

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Swindell, Fischer to pay legal fees to city of Boise
- STATESMAN STAFF
Edition Date: 07/15/08

Brandi Swindell and Bryan Fischer said they will hand-deliver a check for $10,702.55 to city officials Tuesday at Boise City Hall to pay for legal fees associated with a court case about the removal of the Ten Commandments monument from Julia Davis Park.

Swindell said the money came primarily from private donations.

In June, Boise city officials sent Swindell and Fischer a letter saying they owed the city more than $10,000 in legal fees the city incurred in the lawsuit.

Fischer and Swindell led the Keep the Commandments Coalition, which fought unsuccessfully to keep the monument in the park. A judge had ordered the group to pay the legal fees.

The city had placed a lien on the property and assets of Swindell and Fischer and gave them a July 15 deadline to contact the city regarding the amount.

Source: http://www.idahostatesman.com/boise/story/442494.html

Hope everyone had a wonderful 4th of July weekend!

Here's a really good blog post by Adam Graham about the current Boise Ten Commandments situation. I encourage you to read his piece at Renew America.

The whole situation was also featured in the World Net Daily article, Cost of Fighting for Ten Commandments: $10,000; City demands its money after citizens speak up to defend monument.

Posted: June 28, 2008
12:30 am Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily

A little more than four years ago, Brandi Swindell, Bryan Fischer and a group called Generation Life hoped to stop the city council of Boise, Idaho, from removing a Ten Commandments monument that had stood in a city park since 1965.

The city council accepted no public input into its decision, so Generation Life was compelled to file a lawsuit seeking a temporary restraining order on the city's action.

Generation Life lost that case, and even though they later took another suit to the Idaho Supreme Court, winning the right to have the citizens of Boise vote on the monument's future, the bill from the first case has come due.

Now, more than four years later, the city of Boise wants Swindell, Fischer, and Generation Life to pay $10,000 in court-awarded legal fees from the first case. Interest is already accruing, and the city has placed liens against Swindell and Fischer's property.

"I'm a fourth generation Idahoan, born and raised in Boise," Swindell told WND, "and this makes me and many people in our state livid. Essentially the city is saying that if you dare speak against us, hold us accountable, get involved in the legal process, we will go after you and punish you. We believe this is an intimidation tactic."

Swindell told WND that after losing the first case, there was a public outcry that the city would demand legal fees at all. Generation Life wasn't suing over some feigned personal injury or seeking a payoff over broken sidewalks; the group was taking the only avenue the city left open to them in the Ten Commandments monument dispute.

After the public's initial outcry the city made no move to collect the money. "It appeared as though the city had waived the fees," said Swindell. Generation Life hadn't heard from the city in more than four years.

But the federal judge in the first case awarded the city $10,000, and now the city is asking for its money, sending a letter earlier this week informing Swindell and Fischer that they have three weeks to make payment arrangements or face further legal action.

Adam Park, a spokesperson for the mayor's office told WND, "We feel we have an obligation to the taxpayers to pursue money owed by any persons. We're simply asking that (Swindell and Fischer) comply with the federal judge's orders."

Bryan Fischer, a former pastor and now executive director of Idaho Values Alliance, said in a press release, "Ms. Swindell and I both work for small non-profit organizations and thus have limited means. The city of Boise, on the other hand, has an annual budget of $479 million, and thus is certainly in a position to waive this judgment. Yet the city's mayor is still determined to come after us for $10,000. This is a sad indication of what this city is prepared to do to its own citizens who do nothing more than exercise their right to freedom of speech and to seek redress for their grievances."

Swindell told WND that news of the collection attempt is bringing support. "We're receiving calls from people saying they'll help us. One man said, 'I have no money, but I will try to raise $1,000.' Our friends and supporters are livid. People are insulted by this. My hope and prayer is that people will stand with us. The city has left us with few options."

As WND earlier reported, Swindell and Fischer co-founded a group called the Keep the Commandments Coalition after Generation Life lost its first suit. The group was able to gather 19,000 signatures bring the case of the Ten Commandments monument in the city's Julia Davis Park to court.

"The first case was to see if the city could remove the monument without public input," said Swindell. "The second case was to see if the public could override the city's decision through voter initiative."

The Idaho Supreme Court decided in favor of the monument supporters, and the issue was put to a citywide vote in 2006. Largely out of fear of possible lawsuits over a religious display on public grounds, the citizens voted to uphold the city council's decision and return the monument to the Fraternal Order of Eagles that had donated it in 1965.

I have a sad update regarding Isaiah Rafael Rodriguez who has been battling leukemia for the last 2 years. Early this morning Isaiah passed away. I was with Isaiah through the night with his family and friends as he peacefully entered his new journey. Today this precious boy is with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Thank you so much for keeping Isaiah in your prayers as I sent you updates. Isaiah is so sweet and loved by so many. As his father said "Isaiah's story continues in the lives of others he so profoundly touched. Today, Isaiah truly...OVERCAME!"

Please keep Ryan, Barbara and the children in your prayers.

In Him,

Brandi



ISAIAH RAFAEL RODRIGUEZ :: 12/20/96 - 07/02/2008


Early this morning, at approximately 1:27am, Isaiah Rafael Rodriguez went to be with Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior, in a peaceful, sweet passing with friends & family at his bedside...



Isaiah's story continues in the lives of others he so profoundly touched. Today, Isaiah truly...


OVERCAME!
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http://www.overcomeaml.org/

Thank you so much for all the support that has come in. We have received e-mails and phone calls from people asking how they can stand with us and what they can do to help.

Here’s a few ways:

• I have been asked where to send donations to help Bryan and I with the legal fee. You can make checks to Keep the Commandments Coalition, and mail to: P.O. Box 140031, Boise, ID 83714.
• You can write a letter to the editor – Click here to submit your letter.
• You can contact the Mayor and the City of Boise to respectfully voice your opinion at: (208) 384-4422

Today’s issue of the Idaho Statesman includes an article about this issue.
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Boise wants court fees from activists
Christian activists say the city should waive the $10,000 owed from a legal battle over a Ten Commandments plaque.
Local Christian activists Bryan Fischer and Brandi Swindell say pledges are rolling in to help pay a $10,131 legal bill the two owe Boise from their failed effort to keep a Ten Commandments monument in Julia Davis Park.
Swindell said the city was being "vindictive" in asking for the money, and Fischer wrote to his supporters that the city's $479 million budget puts it "certainly in a position to waive this judgment."
Earlier this month, city officials sent a letter to Fischer and Swindell telling them they had to pay up or the city would enforce a property lien placed on Fischer's home in 2004.
The Boise City Attorney's Office said the two had until July 15 to contact the city and resolve the matter, or it would "proceed against you to collect the amounts due, plus interest and costs."
Swindell and Fischer led a lengthy court battle to keep the monument in the park.
In his daily newsletter Friday, Fischer, a former pastor who runs the Idaho Values Alliance, asked supporters for financial help. Later Friday, Swindell said her phone was "ringing off the hook" with outraged citizens offering help.
"The recent actions by Mayor (Dave) Bieter and the Boise City Council to go after a former pastor and single woman, who both run nonprofit organizations, is deeply disturbing on many levels," Swindell wrote in a press release.
Adam Park, spokesman for Bieter, disagreed. A district judge ordered Generation Life, Swindell and Fischer to pay the city's legal fees for the 2004 suit, Park said. At that time, an automatic lien was placed against the property when the order was recorded in the Ada County Recorder's Office, he said.
Bieter and the Boise City Council directed the attorney's office to collect the funds after a routine look at debts owed the city revealed that the money hadn't been paid, Park said.
"By requesting that the parties comply with the judge's order, we are simply fulfilling our obligation to taxpayers to pursue all money owed to the city by any party," Park said.
Park said mayor's office employees couldn't think of a instance in which such a fee was waived, but the city is willing to work out a payment plan.
Fischer said he was never notified of the 2004 lien, but Park said the city was not required to notify Fischer or Swindell.
"When a federal judge says you owe something, that's usually sufficient notice," Park said.
Swindell said she had no idea her personal credit was affected by the court's action. She said the city's response will have a chilling effect on others wishing to "engage in the political process," she said.
"There are things that may be legal, but that does not mean they are principled or ethical," Swindell said. "The city clearly has the option to waive these legal fees against their own citizens who were simply trying to address their grievances with the local government."
Swindell and Fischer formed the Keep the Commandments Coalition after city officials moved the 40-year-old Ten Commandments monument from Julia Davis Park in March 2004 to avoid a legal battle with a controversial minister from Kansas seeking to put an anti-gay monument in the park. The monument was donated to the city in the 1960s.
The group filed legal requests to halt the move and later gathered more than 18,000 signatures in support of an initiative to return the monument.
Bieter refused to schedule an election, but the Idaho Supreme Court forced his hand.
In November 2006, nearly 53 percent of Boise voters rejected the initiative.
Source
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This story has also made national headlines. Click here to read the World Net Daily article about the city’s demand of $10,000.
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I was interviewed by KTVB Channel 7 and Fox 12 News at 9 today concerning today's breaking news about the letter I received from the city of Boise. This letter threatens to seize property and assets of myself and Bryan Fischer for legal fees stemming from a court case concerning the removal of the Ten Commandments Monument from Julia Davis Park.

I would encourage you to watch this evening's news as well as take a moment to read my earlier blog post for more details.

The Idaho Statesman's online edition today includes an article about the recent letter from the City of Boise threatening to seize the property and assets of Brandi Swindell and Bryan Fischer.

Also, I will be interviewed on the Nate Shelman show today; tune into AM 670 KBOI at 4:30 pm or listen live at http://www.670kboi.com/.

Ten Commandments activists still owe city of Boise more than $10,000

Local Christian activists Bryan Fischer and Brandi Swindell are asking for donations after the city of Boise slapped a lien on their property to collect a $10,131 bill from their group's failed legal effort to keep a Ten Commandments monument in Julia Davis Park.

Swindell and Fischer led a lengthy court battle to keep the monument in the park.

The Boise City Attorney's Office wrote the duo they had until July 15 to resolve the matter, or it would "proceed against you to collect the amounts due, plus interest and costs."

In his daily newsletter, Fischer, a former pastor who runs the Idaho Values Alliance, asks supporters for financial help.

“Ms. Swindell and I both work for small non-profit organizations and thus have limited means,” Fischer said. “The city of Boise, on the other hand, has an annual budget of $479 million, and thus is certainly in a position to waive this judgment.”

Swindell issued a press release.

"The recent actions by Mayor (Dave) Bieter and the Boise City Council to go after a former pastor and single woman, who both run non-profit organizations, is deeply disturbing on many levels," Swindell wrote in the release, and went on to call the city's action "vindictive."

Swindell and Fischer formed the Keep the Commandments Coalition after city officials moved the 40-year-old Ten Commandments monument from Julia Davis Park in March 2004.

The City Council removed the monument in 2004 to avoid a legal battle with a controversial minister from Kansas seeking to put an anti-gay monument in the park. The monument was donated to the city in the 1960s.

The coalition gathered more than 18,000 signatures in support of an initiative that would have asked voters to return the monument.

Bieter refused to schedule an election, and a 4th District Court judge agreed. The coalition asked the Idaho Supreme Court to overturn the district court's decision and prevailed.

In November 2006, nearly 53 percent of Boise voters rejected an initiative asking the city to replace it.

Source: http://www.idahostatesman.com/235/story/427122.html

Friday, June 27th, 2008

PRESS RELEASE

City of Boise Threatens to Seize property and assets of Brandi Swindell and Bryan Fischer

Contact: Brandi Swindell (208) 867-1307 or
Bryan Fischer (208) 841-2546

BOISE – In a letter sent to Brandi Swindell and Bryan Fischer, the City of Boise states they each have until July 15, 2008, to pay $10,000 in legal fees stemming from a court case concerning the removal of the Ten Commandments Monument from Julia Davis Park.

The City of Boise also has put a lien on the property and assets of Ms. Swindell and Mr. Fischer.

“The recent actions by Mayor (Dave) Bieter and the Boise City Council to go after a former Pastor and a single woman, who both run non-profit organizations, is deeply disturbing on many levels,” said Keep the Commandments Coalition co-founder Brandi Swindell. “Forcing peaceful citizens to pay legal fees, 4 1/2 years after the court case, is vindictive and clearly a tactic designed to punish citizens who freely embrace their constitutional right to engage in the political process.”

The Mayor and City Council have given Fischer and Swindell only three weeks to pay $10,000 (and interest) or they will proceed against them. Swindell and Fischer each received a certified letter that read, “This is to inform you that we have filed the above referenced judgment with the Ada County Recorders Office which places an automatic lien against all real and personal property under your individual names. This judgment will remain on your credit record until the debt is paid in full.” Click here or go to www.keepthecommandmentsidaho.com to see the entire letter.

“It is important to note that we never went after the City of Boise for the legal costs of our Historic Idaho Supreme Court Case – that we won – giving citizens of Boise the right to vote on the public posting of the 10 Commandments,” Swindell said. “Every taxpayer in Idaho should be horrified and outraged that the local government in our States capitol would try to threaten and punish their own citizens who dare speak out against them.”

“Whether you were for or against the public posting of the 10 Commandments in Julia Davis Park, all should agree that the Boise City Council does not have the right to crush our freedom of speech. The actions by the City of Boise are not only an attempt to intimidate Bryan Fischer and myself but also an insult to the 19,000 citizens that signed the Keep the Commandments petition, the over 40% of Boise residents that voted in support of placing the 10 Commandments in Julia Davis Park and every citizen of Idaho. These fear tactics serve as a threat against every American that believes our government is ‘For the people, by the people. These tactics only strengthen my resolve to continue to be a voice for the people of Boise to express their freedom of speech and to engage in public policy without intimidation or harassment.”


Bryan Fischer states, “Ms. Swindell and I both work for small non-profit organizations and thus have limited means. The city of Boise, on the other hand, has an annual budget of $479 million, and thus is certainly in a position to waive this judgment. Yet the city's mayor is still determined to come after us for $10,000. This is a sad indication of what this city is prepared to do to its own citizens who do nothing more than exercise their right to freedom of speech and to seek redress for their grievances. The city has made no effort to contact us for these last 4 ½ years about this matter, and the very first communication we had from them on the subject came in the June 23 letter, in which we were informed that city leaders were dropping the hammer on us.”

For more information, please call Brandi Swindell (208) 867-1307 or Bryan Fischer (208) 841-2546.

This coming Tuesday is Idaho's primary on May 27. If you'd like information on candidate positions please visit Gem State Voter Guide.

Running this year in District 16 is Christ Troupis. The Idaho Statesman recently endorsed Troupis in his run for state senate. You can read their endorsement here. Troupis was the attorney for Keep the Commandments Coalition in our effort to preserve a Ten Commandments monument in Julia Davis Park. He argued the Idaho Supreme Court case that handed down the favorable 4-1 ruling that gave Boiseans the right to vote on the Ten Commandments. Troupis has also worked on pro-life legislation to uphold the dignity of women and the lives of their children.

Remember to vote this Tuesday!

My friends Randy Jackson and BoundforLife will be leading this prayer rally tomorrow.

This Saturday, April 26, Youth For Revolution will be representing national pro-life organization, Bound For Life, at the Idaho Supreme Court, at the steps of the clerk of the Court, 451 W. State Street in Boise, Idaho 83702. Christians are being mobilized to gather at supreme courts in all 50 states along with the U.S. Supreme Court in Washington, DC. Join with thousands across the nation on this day when we will be holding a simultaneous Silent Siege of every Supreme Court. Coinciding with Passover, the purpose of this day will be to stand in silent prayer before the doors of our justice system and plead the blood of Jesus to pray for an end to the American Holocaust of abortion. Youth For Revolution will have a representative at the Courts at 10 a.m. as prayer will be on going throughout the day. There will be a prayer rally at 1:00 p.m. At this time a statement will be read by a representative from the office of Congressman Bill Sali, and Randy Jackson, Director of Youth For Revolution will lead in a seven-point prayer plan provided by Bound For Life. Please consider joining us as we pray for our nation's repentance and healing. You can read the Bound for Life press release here.

For more information, visit www.youth4revolution.com, or www.boundforlife.com/themercyseat

You can also e-mail info@youth4revolution.com
or call (208)514-5962

BOISE WEEKLY
Return of the Commandments
APRIL 2, 2008

They're back.

It's been four years since the City of Boise moved the 10 Commandments monument out of Julia Davis Park, and just as the memories of Brandi Swindell's community activism were starting to fade, the issue is being forced back into the spotlight.

The U.S. Supreme Court agreed to hear a case that will decide whether cities can select which monuments are placed in public spaces without the risk of litigation for excluding others.

If the court overturns the ruling of the 10th District Court of Appeals—which said cities could not discriminate between groups wanting to erect monuments in public areas—it could pave the way for the return of the Boise monument.

The news means the resurrection of the Keep the Commandments Coalition and the overall celebration of its supporters.

Swindell was doing her celebrating slopeside while attending her nephew's snowboarding competition in Colorado and was unable to attend a hastily thrown-together press conference.

She did manage to comment in a written statement sent to the media. "We applaud the United States Supreme Court for taking the historic case," she wrote. "The Keep the Commandments Coalition always maintained the City of Boise and the parks and recreation department had the authority to determine what kind of displays and monuments can be in public parks.

The Supreme Court is scheduled to hear the case later this year.

Click here to go the article source.

Today marks the 4 year anniversary that the Ten Commandments monument was removed from Julia Davis Park by the Boise City Council. Ironically, we received great news this morning that the U.S. Supreme Court is planning to hear the case Pleasant Grove v. Summum. If the city of Pleasant Grove were to win this case, the Ten Commandments could be returned back to Julia Davis Park with no threat of lawsuits from any other organization wishing to place a statue or monument in the park. Click here to read the press release in its entirety.

Please take a moment to read today’s Idaho Statesman article on this. We also anticipate Fox 12 News to cover this story in their 9:00 pm news cast this evening which can be viewed online.

Also, Keep the Commandments spokesperson, Elysse Barrett will be interviewed on the Nate Shelman show this evening at 6:20 pm. It can be heard at AM 670 or via streaming online.

Great news! Yesterday (Tuesday) the Idaho House Chamber voted 55-11 to approve legislation that would make it a crime to threaten or harass a pregnant woman into having an abortion. If the coercion involved an act of violence, it would become a felony instead of a misdemeanor.

The Senate State Affairs Committee just passed the bill to the Senate floor by a vote of 8-1 this morning. We will keep you posted on the floor vote.

Representative Nonini of Coeur d'Alene is the main sponsor of the legislation (HB 464). I spoke to my good friend, David Ripley, of Idaho Chooses Life who voiced concerns that some of the language has been scaled back from what was originally introduced. Unfortunately, the revised bill defines coercion as being only assault and battery. While this is a significant part of coercion, we know that verbal abuse and psychological intimidation are just as coercive as physical violence.

I plan on working with Idaho Chooses Life to correct the language problems in a future legislative session. As I mentioned in earlier emails, I have testified in support of this legislation. 19-year-old Kelly A. who works with me shared her testimony of how she was coerced into an abortion by family members. Legislation like this isn't just about picking sides and being divided over issues. Shaping public policy like this affects real people like Kelly. Women in our state deserve the protection that this legislation will provide.

Click here to read my testimony before the Idaho House Health and Welfare Committee.
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Two years ago, the Idaho Legislature passed the Informed Notification Law (also known as A Woman's Right to Know). This was a huge victory for the women of Idaho. The purpose of informed notification is to hold doctors accountable. They must give the women of Idaho accurate information describing the medical risks of abortion, a description of fetal development, and other facts at least 24 hours before undergoing an abortion. The United States Supreme Court has upheld the fundamental principle that women deserve to be fully informed about abortion, a medical procedure that could alter the course of their lives.

We have an important update on this law. Yesterday the Senate State Affairs Committee passed H559, an amendment to this law that would make it mandatory for abortion providers to give their clients not only an informative booklet, but also a website which contains information like “fetal development” and “what you should know about abortion”. Because this generation does a lot online, having this information on a website is very valuable.

There is an upcoming Men’s Event called MARS MADNESS, that has author/speaker/radio host Paul Coughlin coming to town on Saturday, March 15th, which includes an optional dodgeball tournament. More information is on the website, www.searchboise.org.

Paul is a straight-talker whose message is relevant to all men, Christian or not. In fact, Dr. Laura Schlesinger wrote the forward and has praised Paul’s first book (“No More Christian Nice Guy”) on her radio program. See, www.christianniceguy.com